. >> he voted against raising the debt ceiling, you are right. but the point is that this money is money that congress passed and appropriated. the congress has to vote on the money. they vote on it. pay your bill. >> if you can't vote on a budget, how can you do that? >> bob: every dime was passed by the congress. >> andrea: first, democratically controlled. >> bob: for two years. >> andrea: he can't say i have no responsibility here. >> it's not realistic. >> the issue, he stood in front of the american people and said i'll do this. elected congress hands and let president obama, czar, king obama decide what to do for the whole country. by the way, for the kids, too. today is a snapshot in time and say we need to pay the bills. yes. but we don't need to run it up in the next 10 the 15 years. >> bob: it's much more dangerous to leave fair trade of the credit of the united states government in gutter if we don't raise the debt ceiling. he can, under lot of legal con industry tutionm lawyers who believe that there is a way for him to do this witho